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Earth Speak with Natalie Ross and Friends

Jun 10, 2021

Michelle Cassandra Johnson shares about knowing your capacity and creating space to grieve in a community of support. You’ll also hear about:

  • Michelle shares her experience of being stopped by the police for no reason, other than being Black
  • How we have been conditioned to grieve in isolation
  • On finding liberation and freedom in grief 
  • TV as medicine

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Michelle C. Johnson is an author, yoga teacher, social justice activist, intuitive healer, and Dismantling Racism trainer. She approaches her life and work from a place of empowerment, embodiment, and integration. Michelle published Skill in Action: Radicalizing Your Yoga Practice to Create a Just World in 2017; she teaches workshops in yoga studios and community spaces nationwide. Michelle’s new book, Finding Refuge: Heart Work for Healing Collective Grief, published by Shambhala Publications, comes out on July 13th, 2021. Whether in an anti-oppression training, yoga space, individual or group intuitive healing session, the heart, healing, and wholeness are at the center of how Michelle approaches all of her work in the world.


In this episode, we talk about:

  • Responding to heartbreak
  • Remembering your roots, and bringing forth your medicine
  • Michelle shares some stories of personal grief
  • How Michelle’s newest book was guided by Spirit
  • Integrating grief into healing work
  • Why we’re resistant to grief
  • On being conditioned to grieve in isolation
  • Finding freedom and liberation through grief
  • On calling in support from our guides and helpers
  • Why our capacity to hold grief is limited
  • How the Spirit can hold grief, even if our body cannot
  • On understanding your capacity for grief
  • Hypervigilance and why BIPOC folks need more space for rest
  • How our capacity shifts, depending on the identities we embody
  • On identifying what is grief and how it shows up
  • Michelle shares her experience of being stopped by the police for no reason
  • Grieving for the end of our life
  • Acknowledging grief and asking -  is there heartbreak today?
  • On permission to grieve
  • Cry-constipation
  • On being witnessed and grieving in a community of support
  • TV as medicine
  • Seeking support for grief and depression
  • The physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual effect of unprocessed grief 
  • Michelle shares about the upcoming 2nd edition of her book Skill in Action 
  • And so much more!

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